Tour of London

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Chat about the mission 'Tour of London' here.

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I have tried this, double and triple checked my calculations, but answers were all deemed wrong and now I am locked out. My research suggests that there might potentially be different constituent answers in a couple of cases, although my answers that took account of these potential variants were still wrong. It is possible I have made an error somewhere else, but having double-checked I'm at a bit of a loss.


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We had problems with the Laws Laws Laws puzzle not accepting the right answer yesterday - try sending an email to OSC support, with details of the problem.

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Law 37 mentionned that there may be problems with some of the tricky puzzles. You should email support

 


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Thanks for the advice. I am seeking a second independent opinion just to make sure I have not gaffed big style, and will contact support if my view is confirmed.


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It took my first attempt.  For the most part, the terms, as worded in the puzzle, produce unambiguous results in the US version of Google.

Edit for clarity: I was talking about "Laws Laws Laws".

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Oooh - I'll be sure to use the UK version then!

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Well my second opinion introduced other possible answers so its probably not an OSC support issue, just my answer being wrong. There probably aren't that really that many possible answers so I will try again tonight. Between us, we have two possible answers for the Guiness consumption, three possible answers for the walk across town, and two possible answers for the pampering session.


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I'm at a definite handicap when it comes to hair glossing treatments... not enough hair!!

But at least there are only a certain number of trains that go back to Shelford.

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I thought I had this one (Tour of London) nailed when my calculation was, to the minute, matching one of the Shelford arrival times.

Sadly, it wasn't that one or either of the times adjoining it.

I'm wondering if the time tables looked different when "There Will be Blood" was showing.

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Why are you matching your calculation to the Shelford arrival time?


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Because the puzzle says, "At what time did I get back to Shelford station?"

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You might want to think about that...


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What do you mean Molnar?

I'm having much difficulty tracking down the hair glossing treatment. No suitable websites... Grrr


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I found it in the "services" area for the store.

And, Molnar's stymied me, as well.

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I don't know how to say this without giving up the ghost (and we may be talking past one another), but

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isn't your calculation more relevant to a departure time?  Which then you can use to determine an arrival time?

 

Edit: Ok, I had guessed a length of time for the hair service and got the right arrival time .  I just found the value I was supposed to use and that would give me the wrong answer.  Go figure.

 


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Ok, here is what I have so far:

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Arrive @ LST 11:43. Get to cafe at 11:50. Finish pizza by 11:53. Reach cinema at 12:15. Film ends 14:53. Get to Selfridges for 15:11. Come out of Selfridges at 16:03. Get to train station at 16:36.
 

Something must be wrong somewhere, as I haven't got the right answer yet. Have to give up for the night though, as I have to write a 250 word essay in german about violent computer games and films. Should I mention E.V.I.L.?

 


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@Molnar:

I think I get what you're saying.

But we'd have to ignore the constraint imposed by National Rail.

(Which I 'm pretty sure we need to do for the movie.)

If we need to use specific information available only at the department store, shouldn't it follow that the same would apply for the train schedule?

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Like I said, I must have been using the force last night to solve this one.  The only way I can get reasonably close to the answer that worked for me is to use the mistaken value for the world record that Зoя uses above (there was a mistake at one place on the Guinness site where they left off the minutes part of the record).


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[coffee] I tried it again using the correct pizza time but stil nothing, and to make it worse, I've been locked out! Never mind though, because I am now 11th place Laughing out loud


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Did you ever solve this? Which pizza time is needed and is the There Will be Blood film

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158m
or not?


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Afraid not. I'm waiting for someone in my team to solve it so they can help me out Sad


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Well, I thiiiink the closest I've got is

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18:33
, but I really wouldn't know if that was actually close or not.


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I got that aswell Tamzin.

So many possibilities-think I'll give up on this one Sad


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There are not too many possibilities and, Tamzin....

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it's earlier than you might think.

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Here's another one where, having failed with my calculated answers, i have systematically tried everything between 17.46 and 18.30. Is it somewhere within this timeframe and I must have gone wrong somewhere (the link crashes a fair bit), or do I need to keep trying new ones?  


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As I remember it, I spent ages looking up the time that the hair treatment might take, only to discover that they only chatted and booked the treatment - so it took next to no time at all!

So the train I initially guessed at was a bit later than the actual answer.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks Andy. I suppose from the wording "they started the treatment" and "feeling pretty pampered I left Selfridges", I assumed they had been through the treatment. I'll recommence in a new time zone tomorrow! 


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Yeah, that was a failing of the puzzle unfortunately, it should have been reworded.  Luckily for me I was at work when I was doing it and didn't read it carefully enough, meaning I missed that and carried on without a hair treatment and got it right first time  Sticking out tongue

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This one has officially cheesed me off! I have now clocked up about 50 attempts for this measly 100 points, and still no joy. Variously confused by erroneous pizza-eating times, non-existant hair treatments, lack of clarity over there will be blood times at a certain cinema, and the vaguaries of british rail train timetables, I am still none the wiser on the answer to this. Even more annoyingly many people seem to have got it on first attempt, despite overlooking important nuggets of information - see above, and Molnar's use of "The Force" (wish I had that).

Can someone narrow it down to a 6 minute window, so I can guarantee getting it before the final puzzle is solved please? It must be somwhere around

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15.25
if you exclude the hair glossing?

 


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Sorry Agent Kenya, that's not quite right.

I think you're over complicating the puzzle to be honest... things like the film showing, you just need to add on the number of minutes long the film is onto the arrival time, etc.  Take everything in its most basic form.

Oh, and remember that the answer will be based on train times (your within 6 mins comment makes me think you might have forgotten that)

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